[Ach] TLS IETF WG and E-T-M

Aaron Zauner azet at azet.org
Tue Dec 3 18:17:19 CET 2013

I advise to read the whole thread - it is increcible. But a good explaination is in this e-mail: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10753.html (kenny paterson is one of the guys with the RC4 and lucky13 attack regarding TLS you may remember).

Gutmann is well known in the crypto community and working for Google (AFAIK - At least he used to). 


On 03 Dec 2013, at 17:59, Aaron Zauner <azet at azet.org> wrote:

> Since I recently had a short discussion during the previous meeting on wheter to choose mac-then-encrypt and encrypt-then-mac (I deployed the latter in the openssh  UMAC configuration). This might be of interest to you: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10722.html
> A bit of background: 
> http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2009-06-24-encrypt-then-mac.html
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gutmann-tls-encrypt-then-mac-00
> Aaron

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