[Ach] pls pull, various changes

christian mock cm at coretec.at
Mon Nov 11 13:25:17 CET 2013


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:32:13PM +0100, Adi Kriegisch wrote:

> > regarding the cipher suites for apache (and others) -- AFAICT you need
> > apache 2.4 to support ECDHE (debian stable has 2.2), and maybe you
> > don't trust EC. Without ECDHE, *all* versions of IE are excluded,
> > which should at least be mentioned in the document, and will probably
> > be a no-go in a commercial setting.
> nginx provides ECC in Debian/stable for example. 

Shall we go mention this in the paper? Or does that lead down an
endless pit of operating systems/distributions and their
peculiarities?

> Regarding the cipher string you suggested:
> 
>   tls_high_cipherlist=DHE+AESGCM:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA384:\
>     ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA:\
>     ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA:\
>     DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA:DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA:!ADH:!AECDH:\
>     !MD5:!DSS

I copy&pasted that one from the apache section, just to have a
starting point. But your points are definitely valid.

> I hope we can have a short discussion about how we will recommend cipher
> strings in our paper. As of now, we at least have two different cipher
> strings -- one with ECC and one without. Then there might be a
> recommendation based on 256 vs. 128bit and probably one on using DSA (or
> how to use DSA)...

Definitely. We probably should split defining the cipher list and
using it in the config snippets to make the doc structure more usable.

cm.

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